Booting useless players

LANS · Post by **LANS** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:04 am

So recently I commanded a game. The enemy (Ryujin) pushed an op (I was giga and couldn't kill it), so I needed to clear it for mining space. So I bought bombers and an op to push into it.

First, we fake-bombed the op and succesfully bombed their expansion.

I caled for another bombrun to their garr, as we then had ints, nan2 scouts, and bombers and had a good chance of intbombing them. Nobody showed up.

So I pondered who to boot. The problem is, I'm never sure who I should boot when THE ENTIRE TEAM IS OFF FLYING CIRCLES WHEN i WANT THEM LOW IN NANS SO A BBR CAN LAUNCH. I can' just boot the entire team, as then I have no team.

My question is:

How do I decide who to boot?

I realize that my rank has stagnated at a 7 (thanks allegskill) despite me learning more about the game and continually improving as a player. I see voobs with (9,10,11...) doing useless crap and not listening when I comm. Is it my rank? Is it my GB tag? I don't see you flying circles when +spideycw@sysx(21) comms. And FFS, how do you expect players to learn how to be good commanders if they can't command small latenight main games with teams that at least reasonably listen? I didn't even have a chance to think about strategy, miner/economy management, map control, or anything of the sort because I spent the entire game TALKING IN ALL CAPS AND USING VCs TRYING TO GET NANS TO THE BOMBER TO a) kill their garr and win the game, and b) kill their op to make space for me to mine.'

I don't consider myself anything of a good commander, or a good pilot. But I am learning and making an effort to improve.

Shizoku · Post by **Shizoku** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:09 am

Honestly, people like yourself make the best targets for motivational boots. People who are big enough to make an impact with the team, but wont seriously compromise your efforts if they choose to join the other side.

ryjamsan · Post by **ryjamsan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:39 am

Just pick whoever was not nanning on the last run

Boot 1 if 4 didnt nan out of 10
Boot #2 on the next run
Boot #3 ont the next run

Those 3 players will come back and do 1 of 2 things. Nan or join the other team

Some my yell at you and call you names but just do what spidey does and get on all and say "nan next time"

I assure you they will nan

Give my suggestion a try and if it helps let me know

Just dont boot me:)

PS or just do a spidey and boot all 4 who failed to nan:)

Right spidey? Thanks for not booting me and my SB in that PARA vs Saro game

I know you really wanted to:)

Broodwich · Post by **Broodwich** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:46 am

its probably a combo of those things. People respect visible commanders and try to impress them by being useful without having to be told. Also, when getting told something they imagine it is the smartest thing to do so they dont question the order themselves. I have on occasion booted over half my team because they were not listening and work with the people who do listen and once we start doing work more people join. It generally takes a while though because not many comms boot half their team if they still have a chance.

The best way to boot is proactive booting. You tell your team at the start "everyone go xxx except for __ __ and __ (or whatever)" and whoever isnt doing what you told them get rid of them. The team wakes up then and gets focused. If someone just happened to launch in the wrong sector on accident and you booted them just say "double check next time! " or "no worries, rejoin!" etc. Starting to boot when things go wrong is a common mistake of all commanders i see, because by then it is often too late.

LANS · Post by **LANS** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:54 am

I'm not talking about booting when things go wrong, more often than not that's the comm's fault. I'm talking about booting for players not cooperating when there is a clearly defined single task to win the game (intbomb their garr against basic tech, and its a 2.2k walk from the aleph to the garr, and you can get to the garr sector uneyed)

spideycw · Post by **spideycw** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:58 am

ryjamsan wrote:QUOTE (ryjamsan @ Oct 12 2010, 11:39 PM) PS or just do a spidey and boot all 4 who failed to nan:)

Right spidey? Thanks for not booting me and my SB in that PARA vs Saro game

I know you really wanted to:)

I didn't boot you because I can't deny you tried even if you failed.

Those who were booted were NOT trying at all.

Broodwich · Post by **Broodwich** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:18 am

did you read anything i wrote?

LANS · Post by **LANS** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:39 am

I have now. Who are you referring to?

spideycw · Post by **spideycw** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:45 am

Broodwich wrote:QUOTE (Broodwich @ Oct 13 2010, 12:18 AM) did you read anything i wrote?

If he's like the rest of us then hell no you $#@!ing aimbotting cheater flying in ships with your name on them.

LANS · Post by **LANS** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:03 am

If I were like the rest of you, this topic would be in size 7 red text in rants. I also wouldn't be spending time making videos for AFS, or telling my RealLife friends about alleg.