What are the rules on booting players off the team?

[Papsmear]

QUOTE (lexaal @ Nov 4 2009, 05:44 PM) Maybe 5s need boot protection too.

It is being discussed by the ZLs

[Parasitism]

QUOTE (Papsmear @ Nov 8 2009, 04:46 PM) It is being discussed by the ZLs

Seriously? People should learn to approach boots like I do: laugh at it, step back, take a break and use the latrine, grab some food, and log on a hider. BAM! You're playing again and your shooting at the guy who booted you.

[HSharp]

It seems far to easy to get to rank (5) so most people are still not fully tooled up on Allegiance Etiquette

[Psychosis]

rank 5 is the new (4)

for those of you who are wondering what the guidelines on booting are, I understand them to simply be thus:
as a commander, I can boot you for ANY REASON AT ALL, as long as it is not a retaliatory boot, or you do not have a (#), however, should you have a (#) and actively be working against the team, AFK, or not responding to me as commander, no-one is going to begrudge me for booting you.

Again, as a comm, I can boot you for pretty much anything. See thread on silliest reasons to boot/ get booted.

example:
QUOTE Noob: Wooo, I lost my number!
Me: Ohh goodie, now I can boot you.
Noob: No you cant
Me: you arent a number, i can boot you
noob: You cant just boot me
Me: Say "I am an idiot" please <noob>
noob: No
Me: Please say "i am an idiot"
noob: No! $#@! you!
Me: DISOBEYING COMMANDER!!!!
HQ: Psychosis has booted <Noob> from team Lolcatz
Team: LOL!!!!

Names have been changed to protect the <noob>[/quote]

[zombywoof]

QUOTE (lexaal @ Nov 4 2009, 01:44 PM) Maybe 5s need boot protection too.

Nah. I've only seen people boot for really stupid things that everyone should know by the time they're a 5. Such as: crowding a con so it can't build (fiiefox's sup con story), launching in an int to solo D a miner that is being attacked by a non-scout, ref bombing instead of tech base bombing, probing red doors, a long list of things that we provide very clear instructions on "this is stuff you shouldn't be doing."

If it weren't enough that every reason I've ever booted is on this list here, which is documented and available to everyone, we also suggest everyone go through the cadet program. The reason we do this is because everyone claims to have read the cadet info on their own, but as fiiefox proves, they don't actually read it and just claim they do. Then when they're booted for not shooting the nans, they complain about how they were doing what they were supposed to be doing, trying to defend against the bomb run! So they come on here and tell their side of the story, which ends up looking like "So I was booted because there was a bbr and I was trying to defend our techbase from blowing up" when the real story is "So I was booted because there was a bomb run on our exp and the comm was spamming "attack scouts" and 'attack nanites" but I had my sound off and wasn't reading the chat and also I never read any of the cadet material or mistakes material so I just attacked the bbr. The bomb run succeeded and all of the sudden WTF I was booted. Had I been reading the chat I probably would've noticed that the com told me exactly why he was booting me before he did it, but I don't read the chat so I didn't notice."

The information is there. Everyone points that information out. Everyone suggests cadet. Even with the artificial rank inflation, I can't imagine anyone having a good excuse for playing up to rank 5 and not hearing at least a hundred times that they should be attacking the nans instead of the bbr.

TL/DR:
5s are absolutely capable of not getting themselves booted. Some 5s, however, don't read the chat, listen to VCs, or read up on what they should be doing, and thus deserve to be booted until they do.

[notjarvis]

QUOTE (HSharp @ Nov 8 2009, 10:10 PM) It seems far to easy to get to rank (5) so most people are still not fully tooled up on Allegiance Etiquette

+1 - MrC has spoke long and hard about the artificial jump to rank five that was put in (with the best of intentions) to stop people spending too long on the newbie server. I agree this should be changed if possible.


P.S.
As for the booting - In this case the pilot deserved his 5, and has 60 odd hours flying time which is quite a decent amount. I'm with psych that the comm can more or less boot for any reason (not that my opinion counts). Deal with it and rejoin the opposition.

[RealPandemonium]

QUOTE (fiiefox @ Nov 8 2009, 03:19 PM) (i play for the short stack alot my stack rank is -5. something one of the highest) if you realy cant handle the occasinal boot i would advise you to join the stacked team in a few games in a row and get your rank up aswell as learning alitle more about why you were booted and what is needed to win a game

As an inexperienced player, you should always be joining the stacked team; doing so is anti-stacking. Joining the team that is being stacked against is most likely hurting them, not helping.

QUOTE (fiiefox @ Nov 8 2009, 03:19 PM) hint a good scout is in truth alot more valuble then a good whore in a game unless that whore is soloing miners and cons for example a well places probe can do more to stop a bomb run then nuke can in a hvy int with mini 3 stumbling across it as it enters his home alph

Oh my he is making fun of Nuke already.

[raumvogel]

You see,Rockbridge what people don't realize about Allegiance is this:
(I have just recently been able to reveal this due to a new inter-galactic
agreement about freedom of information)
You have been personally selected for this "game" by aliens from distant Galaxies.
They have been watching you for years and you have been "chosen".
This is why many players don't consider this a game,they suspect the real
reason for it's existance..to determine the fate of the entire Universe!
Long ago in other star systems,they realized what we on Earth have just learned.
We have the scientific power to erase everything!All races,alien and our own
could be wiped out!Therefore,it has been agreed that to settle our differences,
Human beings would be picked using telepathic and other means and would unsuspectedly
decide these fates.The loss of a miner can lead to the loss of the game.The loss of the game
could cause and entire planet to vanish!!(Their are Death stars everywhere)
Please keep this in mind and realize how much stress you're poor commander is
most likely dealing with.

[Makida]

QUOTE (phoenix1 @ Nov 8 2009, 05:19 PM) Such as: crowding a con so it can't build (fiiefox's sup con story)

Actually, I has a question about this: We all know we're supposed to stay 150 m away from a con when it's aligning to build. But the FAZ R4 page on the wiki lists, among features added, this: "Drones no longer attempt to dodge friendly craft when "entering". This applies to constructors planting in rocks and miners/cons/carriers docking at stations."

That's always confused me -- does that just apply to when the con has already aligned and started entering?

[CREST]

the point i was making there is that naning a con is alot easyer and faster then naning a building fyi naning a sup from crit would take one player a few min vs 20 second or so from a con