spideycw wrote:QUOTE (spideycw @ Jun 25 2008, 10:59 PM) <Hold that rage inside you....write the callsign of that commander on your cold, black heart.....and learn how to play.
Slowly-yes slowly- you will improve......until one day........
You are the commander and that commander who wronged you before is flying for you.
At last your chance for revenge has come. You've waited 1yr 2 months and 27 days for this moment to come.......and your boot finger is already itchy.
Bide your time until the game is well underway. Make sure he is committed and wants to play. Oh, he may have forgotten about the boot so long ago but you think about it every time you play.
When the time is right send him a pm reminding him of that time he booted you......
then on all chat command him to not suck (oh wait...he's not doing it....INSUBORDINATION!) then UNLEASH your POWER in a BOOTING FRENZY!
Or maybe don't take getting booted so seriously, sheesh>
Added the bolded, underlined bit for you Dark_Sponge. Use it in the future with my blessings
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I am not extinction plexis <------ Most likey you did something wrong WITHOUT realizing it /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Resulting in da boot
Just let it go, you will get booted many more times.
Can't remember what for. (I really do, I'm just trying to make a point here.)
It was something really stupid.
I ranted about it for weeks. (Not!)
People hated me for it. (Since the rant didn't happen, nobody hated me for it...other things, sure, but not that.)
I quite the game all the way around, why should I put up with jerks that boot for whatever the reason was? (LOL)
Seriously...ppl get booted. So? I was booted because I was flying in a fig when we had H Ints. I was working back a base, spotted a scout and went after him. The comm (don't remember who it was) booted me for that. Sure, I was mad. Thought it was a lame reason. I wasn't given a warning, just booted.
Then I realized something that made all the difference in the whole getting booted thing:
IT'S A GAME! Don't get worked up over it. If you get THAT worked up over a game, then...well, you need a life, IMHO.
Get a girlfriend, get a job, go outside, take a trip to another state or country or something.
But don't get so worked up about a freaking game!
And now for the message of the day:
Newbies, in this game you WILL get booted. Watch the chat and sooner or later you'll see vets getting booted. YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN BEING BOOTED! Wait for the game to end, then PM the comm and ask why (unless you already know why) and learn from it. Like BV said, most comms will tell you why you were booted, maybe not in the nice grandfatherly way you'd like, but they'll tell you.
There's on game I was shocked I didn't get booted in. I was flying for McWarren. I had a TP2 and was trying to get into their Sup system for a drop. One sector away I got jumped by a bunch of Ints when I came through the aleph. I was fighting (LOL...if you want to call it that) and mistakenly dropped the TP2. I could tell McW was mad (ok, I'm being polite here) and I told him I would understand if he booted me. But he didn't! /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> I've seen players booted for a LOT less then that, and I expected to be in the lobby. So thanks, McW, I'm glad you didn't boot me. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
Anyhow, I've made my point, I hope. If not, oh well. I tried.
Yeah I've been booted 2 or 3 times, and although I remember what they were for I can't remember who booted me.
All of them were because I screwed up while flying a ship that cost money. None of them were bad boots.
If anything they helped me learn real fast that it was important to know exactly what I was doing when flying a money ship.
Olivedrab wrote:QUOTE (Olivedrab @ Jun 26 2008, 08:03 PM) There's on game I was shocked I didn't get booted in. I was flying for McWarren. I had a TP2 and was trying to get into their Sup system for a drop. One sector away I got jumped by a bunch of Ints when I came through the aleph. I was fighting (LOL...if you want to call it that) and mistakenly dropped the TP2.
Dropping the tp2 is the best thing you could have done. Much better than them podding you and then stealing it and then using it against you -- especially if they have a sup! Sure, you've lost the element of surprise (if they didn't know you had tp2 they do now), but there's no avoiding that anyways. McW was probably disappointed you were podded in the first place.
Globemaster_III wrote:QUOTE (Globemaster_III @ Jan 11 2018, 11:27 PM) as you know i think very little of cashto, cashto alway a flying low pilot, he alway flying a trainer airplane and he rented
I've seen some pretty "questionable" booting, aka comms booting players who annoy them, comms booting players because they wern't nanning the bomber (cause they were podded), and comms booting players for "back seat commanding", aka offering advice. In the rules of booting, which I've read carefully, there is nothing to protect the player in these circumstances.
I was recently part of a "boot resign", by a commander that I forget. While I didn't report it to Blackviper, I did report it to an @alleg who was on at the time. The @alleg came back to the side game server, where the offensive commander even confessed to boot resigning. Nothing was done, the only response I received was "I wasn't there to see it, so I cannot do anything".
My first question is this: at what point does booting non-newbie players become abuse?
My second question: is there a way to log or copy the team chat or all chat of a game? It would be much easier to submit a log of that so that we (or I) could prove to the enforcement team that such and such did indeed occur.
Booting a non-newbie is abuse if is retaliatory or constitutes a boot-on-sight. C'est tout. If you are pissing me off and I boot you, nothing will happen to me.
Turns out that all the boots are logged, though, so that @Alleg probably told BV who is probably going to look at a log sometime and then whip out his big, black, beautiful banstick.
In the ASGS tools menu are several logging options that will allow you to log every bit of chat while you are online. It was eating the @#(! out of my little hard drive while I had it on. Knock yourself out.
Angel13 wrote:QUOTE (Angel13 @ Jun 27 2008, 12:12 PM) I've seen some pretty "questionable" booting, aka comms booting players who annoy them, comms booting players because they wern't nanning the bomber (cause they were podded), and comms booting players for "back seat commanding", aka offering advice. In the rules of booting, which I've read carefully, there is nothing to protect the player in these circumstances.
I was recently part of a "boot resign", by a commander that I forget. While I didn't report it to Blackviper, I did report it to an @alleg who was on at the time. The @alleg came back to the side game server, where the offensive commander even confessed to boot resigning. Nothing was done, the only response I received was "I wasn't there to see it, so I cannot do anything".
My first question is this: at what point does booting non-newbie players become abuse?
My second question: is there a way to log or copy the team chat or all chat of a game? It would be much easier to submit a log of that so that we (or I) could prove to the enforcement team that such and such did indeed occur.
Boot resigns are always reported if the @Alleg did not see it personally.
Unfortunately, aarm doesn't have TAG running on his servers 95% of the time and hence we don't have conclusive proof if the game was on Planet.
But they are dealt with by chatting with the players present etc.
The reason commanders are give such leeway is that they are a very few people - lack of commanders are one of our biggest problems (which ACS is addressing, thankfully).
If above rank 4, being booted for obeying orders (or worse) is completely fine. As long as it doesn't violate the RoC. I have been booted just because the comm was pissed off one day. Try using a hider.
Aspect #2:
The commander let you onto HIS/HER team. They are in control. You join them with the knowledge that they have "The Boot Button". Just like joining a clan/guild on some other MMORPG, its not your team, not your squad, but unlike other games, allegiance has protection for nubbins (young nubs, rank <4)
